Academy/Motions & Parliamentary Procedure
Points of order
How to flag a broken rule mid meeting, and what happens after you do.
A point of order is a member's assertion, made to the chair partway through a meeting, that a rule is being broken: a step skipped, an item raised out of turn, a requirement in the bylaws ignored. Say "point of order" and name the problem. The chair rules on it. Disagree, and you can appeal to the full board.
What you're actually flagging
A motion is a proposal. A point of order is different: it says the proposal, or the process around it, broke a rule. Maybe the board is about to vote on something that never got a required second. Maybe the group is deep into discussing an item nobody actually moved. Maybe the meeting notice did not give the advance warning the bylaws require.
Raise it the moment you notice, addressed to the chair: "point of order," then the specific problem. You are not arguing the idea itself is bad. You are arguing the board has not followed its own rules in getting there, and those are two separate questions.
What counts as a rule
Not every rule comes from the same place, and they do not carry equal weight. In order, a board answers to: its state's HOA, condominium, or nonprofit corporation statute, whichever applies to your entity type and state, check with your attorney if you're unsure; the declaration or CC&Rs; the bylaws; board resolutions and adopted rules; and, last, whatever parliamentary authority the documents adopt, usually Robert's Rules.
That order matters for a point of order because it tells you what actually got broken. Robert's Rules fills gaps. It does not outrank a statute, and it does not overrule what your own bylaws say, no matter how clearly the parliamentary rule is worded.
If you disagree with the ruling
The chair rules on a point of order right there in the meeting, and that ruling stands unless a member challenges it. That challenge has a name: an appeal, a formal request that the full board, not the chair alone, decide who is right.
An appeal is itself a procedural step with its own vote. Exactly what that vote requires depends on the parliamentary authority your bylaws adopt, so check yours rather than assume. If your documents point to Robert's Rules, the RONR Quick Reference Guide is the place to look, not a summary like this one.
Use it for real problems
On most HOA boards, the presiding officer already has more latitude than a chair running a large membership meeting. On a board of about a dozen members or fewer, the chair may debate, make motions, and vote like any other director. That is not a loophole. It is simply how small board procedure works.
A point of order fits the same spirit. Save it for a real problem, a skipped step, the wrong item on the floor, a rule actually broken, not for scoring a point in an argument you are otherwise losing.
"Can slow discussion, discourage participation, and shift attention away from the substance."
Source: Board Meetings Aren't Annual Meetings: Three Common Meeting Myths, CAI / HOAresources
That is what excessive formality does in a small board setting. A point of order used well prevents that outcome. Used as a weapon, it causes it.
Check yourself
Answer before you read the explanation, recalling it is what makes it stick.
The board is about to vote on a motion, but nobody actually seconded it before discussion started. What should a director do right now?
The chair rules that a member's point of order is not well taken. The member still thinks the chair got it wrong. What is the correct next step?
A member raises a point of order, arguing that Robert's Rules requires a certain step. The association's bylaws set out a different, conflicting step. Which one governs?
Sources
- Robert's Rules of Order, Official FAQ, The Robert's Rules Association
- Board Meetings Aren't Annual Meetings: Three Common Meeting Myths, CAI / HOAresources
- Parliamentary Procedure: Why Robert's Rules HOA Meetings, CAI / HOAresources
- RONR 12th ed. Quick Reference Guide, The Robert's Rules Association
Related elsewhere in the Academy
Motions & Parliamentary Procedure
Not sure whether your chair got a ruling right? Read Appeals from the chair next.
This page is educational, not legal advice. Parliamentary procedure and board authority vary by state law and by your association's own governing documents. Confirm anything that matters against your bylaws, your CC&Rs, and your own attorney.